Possibly works with kids. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. Yes, they would be looking for it, because if you know computers etc. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. Knives were also found at Allen's home, according to the affidavit. Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, is allegedly the man behind a fake social media account that investigators. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. Delphi Murders - Bodys Posed - LifeUnited Im not stupid. At least two prior marriages. Killer Likely 'Moved and Staged' Delphi Murder Victims - Law & Crime I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. Tough shit. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. Its at his home on a shelf! The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. Oh, one more thing. Unsolved Murders Archives - TRUECRIMEGUY.COM This may extend to age 15. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. He's charged with two counts of murder and has entered a not guilty plea. Someone tries to fire the gun but it's a faulty bullet and it doesn't fire, or 2.) Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. The FBI has released a description for the suspect, which is that he is a white male between 5'6" and 5'8" tall. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. Can you believe that I said that on Facebook, and some retarded ass computer flagged it and banned me for a while for insulting another user? I find it very hard to believe either of the girls were targeted by anyone-everything about this case screams random attack by a killer who knew the most likely location to find female victims he could easily overpower. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. He stayed to guard his truck. Which of them is LEs chief suspect? The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. Ill leave it at that. Daniel Nations, a registered Indiana sex-offender, was arrested in Colorado in September 2017 after threatening hikers with a hatchet. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Ron Logan, who died in 2020, had long been put forward as a prime suspect. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. 43 seconds of audio. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? Hi folks. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. Police say they ruled Eldridge out as a suspect, and that he did not match an updated sketch of the suspect. As if her murder itself wasn't mysterious enough, the case would see twists, turns, and dead ends along with mysteries within the mystery. Allen's lead defense attorney Brad Rozzi did not respond to a request for comment and fellow attorney Andrew Baldwin declined to comment. 4) He was married many years prior. Cookie Notice Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. Good question and we have no answer to it. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? Suspect: Ok, you got me. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. Investigators believe the man is the killer. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. A probable cause. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. Youre not necessarily going to get that so much with a blunt type of weapon, Morgan said. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. I tend to think its a doll. That is all it can possibly be. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. I find it notable that not much has been said about the danger to others, I think it has been said that it could not be excluded, but I have not seen any emphatic warnings. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. You Go Girl! Now he says he never saw BG at all. Fact that the FBI was instantly involved would be because they have the expertise to "read" such a crime scene. Police found the girls lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. I doubt it. Is that also speculation? Why say you have crime scene photos if you're not intending to share them? I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. He does not work there at the moment. The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings, which police continue to investigate. KAK and his Dad. This happened b/w the mid-80s to early-90s. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. They were reported missing two hours after they didn't show up for their ride home, and their bodies were found the following day about half a mile away from the bridge. Via LE Source A, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. I see hot, humid conditions. [42] Derrick leaves to go take photos for Becky's business. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. Thanks Dee. I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. If so, where and when? Thats probably your answer. Press J to jump to the feed. Shameful. Haunting new details in Delphi murders including bullet 'tying Richard Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. This makes absolutely no sense at all. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. Garrett said it's possible that the gun jammed and the killer turned to another weapon. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. 9) He has killed before. Unless he made them undress -- which I guess is possible -- was there some other weapon used?". We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. Plenty of time to get numbers, etc. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. His wife has taken to social media lately, pleading with people to stop harassing them and insisting he had nothing to do with this crime. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. DELPHI FBI Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were "moved and staged" at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents. I saw the local Delphi News footage from the week of the murders where they interview Ron Logan while they are actually searching his property. Ill leave it up to you to believe what you want to believe. At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. Xs wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. According to the warrant, Logan said he was in Lafayette on the day of the murders, visiting an aquarium. He even brought his phone in and took it apart to reveal the GPS device in it so they could look at it. Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. The investigators do believe that the suspect either lives or works in Delphi, Ind. The "Nearly Decapitated" rumors : r/DelphiMurders. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. We believe she never showed up, he never called the wife, he never lost his keys in the first place, and there was no spare set. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. John Kelly has some good information. This is at a time when he and his alibi place him out of town in a nearby city. Thank you so much! Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? At the very least he could have made misleading statements. Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*. Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. Liberty German Fbi The girl survived, and Chadwell is currently serving a 90-year sentence for the attack. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Investigators also cite a witness who saw Allen walking with "clothes that were muddy and bloody," according to the probable cause affidavit. There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. They were folded on her chest. She wanted to meet up with him. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Dont pay any attention to that.. Delphi Murders Update March 26, 2021 - Beyond Highbrow Investigators have explained that the details of the crime scene indicate a signature, which can help them identify the killer. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. Its true by process of elimination. FBI says their bodies 'moved and staged' in Delphi murders - WBIW The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. Bob Matlock, owner of the now-closed Jessies Bar & Grill, said Richard Matthews Allen and his wife were regular customers, often talking about the murders of 14-year-old Liberty Libby German and 13-year-old in 2017. And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. He can be heard saying, "Guys, down the hill," in the short video and investigators created two composite sketches based on this evidence. No. In the years since Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered, there have been no arrests. I have seen very poor crime scene photos. Is he into numerology? Ron Logan: Enough already. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. It was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing.. Killer? This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. I dont know what these names mean. The incident was nicknamed the "Snapchat Murders" after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. In my experience, this points to chicanery. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. Unverified. Did he eat? I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. It is unclear when and where the photo was taken. Theres only one parent. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! A mystery man was captured in a grainy video taken on Libby's phone the day of her. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. However, the investigators have made it clear over the years that they are not yet ready to release further information about what happened to the teens. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. Oh, one more thing, Jim. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. Thank you for stopping by the site. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. SoundCloud.com How to Submit Tips In Delphi Murders Case Watch on Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. The killings were later nicknamed the Snapchat Murders after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. Eerie photos capture teens' death march 'Down the hill' - news Unverified and Probably Not True. A lot of my comments have been deleted, not at my discretion. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. There are 3 most common reasons; to thwart the investigation, for the shock effect on the finder and the investigators of the crime scene, or for perverted pleasure of the perpetrator. Not sure if thats what this is about, but if so, Im not sold. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. She was found in an ivory/white dress. Did he not see BG? Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides - Truth Tellers After all, there was nothing they could have done anyway. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. The Evansdale crime was committed on 7-13-12, and the Delphi crime was committed on 2-13-17. Please do not share any sources that discuss the origin of the rumor and stick to the topic of the post. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. Lists a factory as place of residence. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Give it a rest, dammit! ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. There are 244 comments there. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. Delphi murders: What the unsealed documents reveal and the questions YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. You dont have LE sources. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. They had no history of behavior indicative of disregarding or disrespecting their parents/guardians by running off to a friends house just to show up later. What I noticed in the article is that in cases of stating and posing bodies, the perpetrator and the victims are, compared to other murders, on average, older. I find your blog very interesting. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. The LE source below is an LE sources close to the Delphi Murders investigation. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? Dime a dozen. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. The conviction is expunged. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. But it's just speculation at this point, because nothing has been confirmed. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. But not far. was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details. Germans sister Kelsey tweeted early Friday: Just know how grateful I am to all of you. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll County Prosecutors Office. How do I do this? Start your Independent Premium subscription today. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. That would have been quite a problem. What? Were you a member of the private group? The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. I didnt mean to imply that, sorry. Investigators also believed photographs or videos were likely shot of the grotesque set-up to 'memorialize' the crime scene. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Though there was no press conference held on the third anniversary of the murders in February of 2020, investigators said that the case was not cold. Indiana State Police and the. Answers to questions about my credibility. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. "I've always been concerned about how these two youngsters died. Ronald Logan was never named a suspect, despite the warrant. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. He cant even drive a car! Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. This man deserves to be caught and get death penalty. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons.